Разговор с корисником:Obsuser — разлика између измена

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Верзија на датум 15. август 2017. у 22:01

A followup to our exchange at Викицитат:Трг#Коментари:

  • Коментар  Perhaps I'm just seeing a bad Google translation of the above proposal, but I just wanted to clarify: currently the only Wikimedia wikis that use $wgArticleCountMethod='any' are the Gujarati and Polish Wikisources, the Chinese and Czech Wikinewses, and Wikidata (see "wgArticleCountMethod" in InitialiseSettings.php). No Wikipedias (yet). - dcljr (разговор) 03:38, 10. август 2017. (CEST)
I did not write that some Wikipedia uses $wgArticleCountMethod='any' (I didn't know anything about these methods for Wikipedias and things until your post above) but that count is as on Wikipedia; maybe it is not same as on Wikipedia, with same $wgArticleCountMethod value but for editors it is enough to know and easy to notice if pages with no wikilinks are counting as articles or not, and that only redirects and other namespaces don't count etc. --Obsuser (разговор) 13:32, 15. август 2017. (CEST)

Sorry, but I'm still confused. (Obviously this is now just a grammar issue, so that's why I moved the discussion here.)

The Google translation of the first sentence of your original proposal is:

I'm launching a discussion to achieve a formal consensus to change the value of $ wgArticleCountMethod to "any" for this Vicki so that it counts all pages except for redirects, etc., as well as in Wikipedia.

The "as well as in" part is a bit awkward, since it is unclear what part of the sentence that phrase is intended to modify. One interpretation is that "as well as in" refers to the word "changing", meaning that you wanted to discuss changing the counting method for both this wiki and the Serbian Wikipedia. I assumed that wasn't what you meant.

Another interpretation would be that "as well as in" should have been the phrase "like in", which would seem to refer to the counting method you want this wiki to adopt — meaning that you wanted this wiki to change to the counting method that Wikipedia currently uses. This is what I assumed you meant, therefore I thought you believed that the Serbian Wikipedia currently uses the 'any' counting method.

A third possible interpretation (which I didn't think of until now) is that "as well as in" refers only to the word "etc.", but this also seems to imply that you wanted to change to the counting method that Wikipedia currently uses!

As quoted above, you followed up by saying:

…but that count is as on Wikipedia; maybe it is not same as on Wikipedia, with same $wgArticleCountMethod value but…

What would "as on Wikipedia" mean if not "the same as on Wikipedia"? Surely you're not just saying that the mere fact that this wiki counts its articles is what this wiki has in common with Wikipedia. (That would seem to "go without saying".)

Sorry, but I just don't understand. Can you say what you meant in a completely different way? - dcljr (разговор) 23:01, 15. август 2017. (CEST)[одговори]